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Die Kwessie Van Straf – Deel III

Die Kwessie Van Straf – Deel III

As God nie sy krag hoef te gebruik om strawwe op te lê nie, as God werklik sy krag gebruik het om in te tree teen die vernietiging van sonde en op die ou end laat Hy sondaars bloot gaan en sondaars sterf as gevolg van hul eie ongeneesde toestand, hoe maak ons dan sin van al die tekste in die Bybel wat van vuur, swawel, hel, brand, ens, praat?

Kom ons kyk na sommige van hierdie tekste en kyk wat die Bybel werklik leer:

Jesaja 33:14,15 Die sondaars in Sion bewe, siddering het die roekelose aangegryp. Hulle sê: Wie van ons kan woon by ‘n verterende vuur, wie van ons kan woon by ‘n ewige gloed? Hy wat in geregtigheid wandel en spreek wat reg is, wat gewin deur afpersinge versmaad, wat sy hande uitskud om geen omkoopgeskenk aan te gryp nie, wat sy oor toestop om van geen bloedskuld te hoor nie, en sy oë sluit om wat sleg is, nie te sien nie…

Wag ’n oomblik. Wat gaan hier aan? Die Bybel sê die regverdiges, nie die goddeloses nie, is diegene wat in die verterende vuur leef! Glo ons die Bybel of het Satan se leuens so diep in ons gedagtes nes geskop, so bekend in ons denke, so gemaklik in ons lewens, dat ons ons gedagtes vir God se woord sal sluit om aan bekende leuens vas te hou? Of is jy bereid om jou verstand oop te maak en God se Woord te ondersoek en die waarheid wat dit bevat, te omhels? Kom ons kyk wat die res van die Bybel sê.

Eksodus 3:2-4 God praat met Moses by die bos – en wat het die bos gedoen? Gebrand – maar is dit verteer? Stefanus in Handelinge 7:30-36 bevestig dieselfde berig.

Eksodus 24:17 God het na die berg Sinai gekom en sy teenwoordigheid is beskryf as ‘n “verterende vuur”, het die elemente soos ‘n kernontploffing gesmelt?

2 Kron 5:14 & 2 Kron 7:1-3 vertel ons dat toe Salomo se tempel ingewy is, die priesters nie kon ingaan nie omdat die glans van God se vurige heerlikheid te groot was – maar het die tempel afgebrand? Was dit dus hitte wat die priesters uitgehou het?

Esegiël 28:14,16 vertel ons dat Lucifer voor sy val tussen die “vurige gesteentes” van God se teenwoordigheid geloop het. Was hierdie brand vernietigend?

Matteus 17:2 Die Berg van Verheerliking, Jesus se menslike liggaam wat nog aan die dood onderworpe was, want dit het kort daarna aan die Kruis gesterf, word helder soos die son. Sy gesig het soos die son geskyn en sy klere was helderwit, maar het sy klere gebrand of het Hy 3de graadse brandwonde opgedoen?

Duet 4:24 en Hebreërs 12:29 sê: “Ons God is ‘n verterende vuur.”

Openbaring 22:5 sê vir ons dat daar in die nuwe aarde geen behoefte sal wees vir die son en maan om die aarde te verlig nie, want God se teenwoordigheid sal sy lig wees!

Wat is die leuen wat Satan op ons afgedwing het? Wat is die verdraaiing wat te veel mense al as waarheid aanvaar het? Is dit nie net dit, dat die plek waarheen jy nie wil gaan nie, die plek waar jy nie vir ewig wil wees nie, is die plek van ewige brande en verterende vuur, met ander woorde, die tradisionele Christelike konsep van die hel? En tog sê die Bybel dat hierdie plek God se teenwoordigheid is, sy troon omring deur ‘n see van glas gemeng met vuur (Op 15:2)!

Die regverdiges sal deur hierdie lewegewende heerlikheid verander word – soos Moses nadat hy 40 dae by God was. Moses het van die berg afgekom en sy aangesig het hierdie vurige heerlikheid uitgestraal (Eks 34:29-35). Maar het Moses 3de graadse brandwonde gehad? Nee, die vuur was nie skadelik nie. Maar wat van die kinders van Israel? Wat het hulle gedoen toe hulle Moses sien? Hulle het hom gesmeek om ‘n sluier oor sy gesig te sit, want hierdie lig het angs en lyding in hulle veroorsaak. Maar watter soort lyding? Lyding van hulle gees. Hoekom? Omdat hulle gewete skuldig was, omdat hulle God se metodes en beginsels nie waardeer het nie, omdat hulle leuens en selfsug verkies het. Die lig van hemelse liefde en waarheid het hulle laat ly.

By die wederkoms van Christus, gaan hierdie selfde vuur wat die regverdiges verander, soos ons in ‘n oogwink verander word, soos hierdie sterflikheid onsterflikheid aantrek, soos ons versterk word deur hierdie lewegewende vuur, word dieselfde vuur in 2 Thessalonicense 2:8 beskryf as die vernietiging van die mens van sonde.

Maar watter soort vuur is dit? Waarom verteer dit nie bosse, geboue en mense tot as nie? Hoe verander en genees dit eerder die regverdiges, maar veroorsaak dit terselfdertyd angs, ongemak, pyn en vernietiging van die goddeloses? Watter soort vuur is dit?

Dit is ‘n vuur wat die aarde van sonde sal reinig, ‘n vuur wat goddeloosheid verteer. Laat ek u dus ‘n paar vrae vra:

Waaruit is ‘n boek gemaak?

Waaruit is ‘n tafel of stoel gemaak?

Waaruit is sonde gemaak?

Die vuur aan die einde is die vuur wat sonde verteer, nie materiële stowwe nie. So, waaruit bestaan sonde? Sonde is ‘n idee, houding, gedagte, metode of beginsel en aan die wortel daarvan is daar twee elemente waarop sonde gebaseer is: Leuens en selfsug

Wat is dit nou wat ‘n leuen verteer en vernietig?

Die waarheid! Die Heilige Gees word die Gees van waarheid genoem.

Wat is dit wat selfsug verteer en vernietig?

Liefde! God is Liefde!

So wanneer God se Gees kom, is dit die Gees van Waarheid en Liefde. Op Pinkster, toe die Gees uitgestort is, het die mense “tonge van vuur” gesien! So hoekom het die huis nie afgebrand of is niemand beseer nie?

Waarom sal die goddeloses dan ly wanneer die vure van waarheid en liefde vrylik brand, wanneer hierdie vure van waarheid en liefde die regverdiges verander, veredel en verkwik, wanneer die vuur van God se teenwoordigheid geopenbaar word? Die Bybel laat ons nie in twyfel nie, maar sê direk vir ons:

2 Thes 2:10 Hulle vergaan omdat hulle geweier het om die waarheid lief te hê en so gered te word.

Wat gebeur in die gedagtes van diegene wat die waarheid verwerp het en aan leuens vasklou; wanneer die waarheid van God deurskyn? Pyniging van gees, angs van hart, lyding van psige! En wat gebeur met diegene wie se harte met selfsug gevul is wanneer die suiwer, onverdunde liefde van God op sonde skyn? Spreuke 25:21,22 en Romeine 12:20 sê vir ons dat:

“As jou vyand honger is, voed hom; as hy dors is, gee hom iets om te drink. Deur dit te doen, sal jy brandende kole op sy kop hoop.”

Wat sal diegene wat hulle verstand in leuens versterk het en wat hulle harte in selfsug verhard het, doen wanneer Christus verskyn en hulle van aangesig tot aangesig met onverdunde, oneindige waarheid en liefde gekonfronteer word?

Openbaring 6:15,16 (NIV84): En die konings van die aarde, die vorste, die generaals, die rykes, die magtiges, en elke slaaf en elke vry man het in grotte en tussen die rotse van die berge weggekruip. En hulle het na die berge en die rotse geroep: “Val op ons en verberg ons vir die aangesig van Hom wat op die troon sit en vir die toorn van die Lam!

Hoekom sal hulle dit doen? Is God besig om hulle ‘n uiterlike straf op te lê of is hulle toestand die oorsaak van hulle lyding wanneer hulle in God se liefdevolle en heilige teenwoordigheid kom?

God het ons eintlik bewyse gegee dat die vuur van sy teenwoordigheid sonde verteer, nie materiële stowwe nie. In Levitikus lees ons van Aäron se seuns wat as priesters ongemagtigde vuur voor die Here gebring het. Let op wat gebeur:

Levitikus 10:1-5 (AFR33) En die seuns van Aäron, Nadab en Abíhu, het elkeen sy vuurpan geneem en vuur daarin gegooi en reukwerk daarop gesit en vreemde vuur voor die aangesig van die HERE gebring, wat Hy hulle nie beveel het nie. Daarop het daar vuur van die aangesig van die HERE uitgegaan en hulle verteer, en hulle het gesterwe voor die aangesig van die HERE. Toe sê Moses vir Aäron: Dit is dit wat die HERE gespreek het deur te sê: In die wat naby My is, wil Ek My as die Heilige laat ken, en voor die oë van die hele volk wil Ek My verheerlik. Maar Aäron het stilgebly. En Moses het Mísael en Élsafan, die seuns van Ussíël, die oom van Aäron, geroep en aan hulle gesê: Kom nader, dra julle broers van die heiligdom af weg, buitekant die laer uit. Toe het hulle nader gekom en hulle in hul rokke buitekant die laer uitgedra soos Moses gesê het.

Let op dat vuur uit die teenwoordigheid van die Here hulle “VERTEER” het, maar hulle liggame was nie verbrand nie en hulle rokke was nog ongeskonde. Die vuur is die vuur van waarheid en liefde wat diegene wat in leuens en selfsug leef, totaal oorweldig, diegene wat nie in hart en verstand genees is om soos Jesus te wees nie.

Maar wat van gedeeltes in Openbaring wat van vuur en swael praat? Dit klink soos ‘n vuur wat die vlees verbrand, ‘n vuur van verbranding, ‘n vuur wat bosse, tempels en mense verteer. Wat daarvan?

Die woord wat met swawel of vuur vertaal word, is die Griekse woord “thion”, die gesteriliseerde vorm van “thios”, wat goddelik, goddelikheid, godheid beteken en vanwaar ons die woord teologie kry (om die goddelike te bestudeer). Daarom kan die frase wat met “vuur en swael” vertaal word, meer akkuraat vertaal word as “goddelike wierook” of “heilige vuur”. Weereens word ons teruggebring na die begrip dat dit die vuur van God se teenwoordigheid is wat uitgebeeld word, nie letterlik brandende swael klippe nie! Kan dit wees dat dit dieselfde vurige klippe is waar Lucifer voor sy val geloop het soos beskryf in Esegiël 28:14? Kan dit wees dat dit die vuur is waarin Elia gery het toe die strydwa van vuur hom hemel toe geneem het (2 Konings 2:11)?

Weereens laat die Bybel ons in geen twyfel nie. Lees hierdie gedeelte wat praat oor die verbranding van swael noukeurig. Let op waar dit plaasvind:

Openbaring 14:9-11 “En ‘n derde engel het hulle gevolg en met ‘n groot stem gesê: As iemand die dier en sy beeld aanbid en ‘n merk op sy voorhoof of op sy hand ontvang, sal hy self ook drink van die wyn van die grimmigheid van God wat ongemeng ingeskink is in die beker van sy toorn, en hy sal gepynig word met vuur en swawel (heilige vuur) voor die heilige engele en voor die Lam. En die rook van hulle pyniging gaan op tot in alle ewigheid, en hulle het dag en nag geen rus nie hulle wat die dier en sy beeld aanbid, en elkeen wat die merk van sy naam ontvang.”

Waar vind die lyding en pyniging plaas? In die teenwoordigheid van die heilige engele en die Lam. En watter soort lyding is dit? Geestelike angs, lyding van hart, pyn van gemoed, pyn van psige as elke persoon van aangesig tot aangesig kom met die waarheid oor hulself, hul geskiedenis, hul geleenthede wat verwerp was. Hulle kom van aangesig tot aangesig met die pyn en lyding wat hulle veroorsaak het in teenstelling met die totale liefde, genade en goedheid van God. En wanneer elke individu die waarheid oor hul eie lewens hersien het, wanneer die waarheid deur al die leuens gebrand het en te oorweldigend word, wanneer die sielkundige pyn te groot is, ervaar hulle uiteindelik die volle skeiding van God wat hulle gekies het en sterf fisies die tweede, ewige dood. En dan, nadat al die goddeloses aan hulle eie ongeneesde toestand gesterf het, kom ‘n letterlike, reinigende vuur en smelt die elemente met vurige hitte en die aarde sal nuut gemaak word, die ewige tuiste van die regverdiges (2 Petrus 3:10-12).

Ek daag jou uit om self die bewyse te ondersoek, die bewyse van God se Woord, die aard en karakter van sy wet van liefde, die aard en karakter van sonde, en tot jou eie gevolgtrekking te kom. Verwerp idees wat God skilder as iemand wat behae het in die lyding van sy skepsele en optree om hulle te straf. Aanvaar die waarheid wat Jesus geopenbaar het, want Jesus het gesê, “As julle My gesien het, het julle die Vader gesien. Ek en die Vader is Een.” Sien jy dat Jesus mense straf? Glo jy die Vader is soos Jesus? Aanvaar dan die waarheid. Sonde maak dood. Sonde vernietig. Sonde skei ons van die bron van die lewe en sonder God se genadige geneesmiddel lei dit slegs tot ondergang en dood. God aan die ander kant is ons Groot Geneesheer en sal almal genees en herstel wat Hom vertrou. Sal jy nie toelaat dat Hy jou vandag genees nie?

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