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BERINNE EN KLIPPE: WAT SÊ DIT OOR GOD?

BERINNE EN KLIPPE: WAT SÊ DIT OOR GOD?

Wat is jou siening oor God wat bere stuur om kinders te vermorsel nadat hulle “gespot” het met een van God se profete omdat hy kaalkop was? Dit het my regtig gepla en lyk baie hardvogtig en het my vertroue in God se karakter regtig seergemaak. Ek bedoel, watter kind het nog nie een of ander keer iemand geterg nie??? Dit beteken nie dat hulle die dood verdien nie. Ek het ‘n 8-jarige dogter, so die gedagte dat God haar sal doodmaak oor iets so onbenulligs, maak my kwaad en ek voel dit is hoogs onregverdig.

Die 2de: In die OT beveel God dat ‘n man gestenig moet word omdat hy vuurmaakhout op die Sabbat bymekaargemaak het. Daardie een het my geloof regtig, regtig ernstig beskadig. Wat as die man net hout bymekaarmaak om ‘n vuur te maak om hom en sy gesin warm te hou of om kos te kook? Beteken dit dat ek op die oordeelsdag vernietig kan word omdat ek my bed opmaak, maaltye vir my gesin kook en die skottelgoedwasser op die Sabbat gelaai het??? Ek sien regtig nie hoe hierdie take anders is as om hout bymekaar te maak nie. Dit is nie asof hy hout bymekaarmaak net vir “lekkerkry” nie. Hout dien 2 doeleindes – om warm te maak of kos te kook. Ek verstaan daar is gevolge in sonde, en glo beslis dat daar moet wees! MAAR….moet die straf nie by die misdaad pas nie? God kon hulle gestraf het met die vernietiging van hul huise of ‘n verlies van al hul besittings, ens. (net voorbeelde).

Ek hoop jy kan ‘n ander lig op die twee voorvalle werp. Ek sal daarvan hou om God weer werklik lief te hê en te voel asof Hy aanbidding waardig is. By voorbaat dankie vir jou antwoord! Ek waardeer jou tyd en jou mening baie.


Wanneer ons die Ou Testament (OT) lees, moet ons dit altyd lees teen die agtergrond van die Groot Stryd oor die karakter van God met Jesus as ons fokuslens. Hy was God in menslike vorm en was die God wat in die OT opgetree het. So, verskeie vrae moet beantwoord word – wie verstaan jy is Jesus? Is Hy ten volle God? Het die volheid van die Godheid in Hom gewoon? Is dit waar dat die Vader in die Seun was? Is dit waar dat wanneer ons Jesus sien, ons die Vader sien? Is dit waar dat Jesus presies die karakter en aard van God geopenbaar het?

As die antwoorde op al hierdie vrae ja is, en ons lees ‘n OT-storie en dink dit stel God in ‘n ander lig voor as wat Jesus geopenbaar het, dan weet ons dat ons op een of ander manier die storie verkeerd verstaan.

Ons moet ook vra, deur watter raamwerk sien ons hierdie stories? Hoe verstaan ons God se skepping en sy wet? Met ander woorde, hoe verstaan ons die basiese beginsels waarop God die heelal ontwerp het om te werk?

Verstaan ons God as ‘n diktator wat wesens skep en dan wette uitvaardig om sy skepsele te regeer en as die regerende gesag, om geregtigheid te handhaaf, dit dan vereis word om sy heelal te “polisieer”, oortreders in aanhouding te plaas, geregtelike stappe te volg en uiteindelik arbitrêr opgelegde strawwe uit te deel?

Of sien ons God as die “Skepper”, die Een wat werklik die heelal gebou het, die Een wat alles gebou het, en daarom die bloudruk geskep het waarop alle dinge werk? Aangesien God sê Hy IS liefde, sou Hy nie sy heelal skep om in harmonie met sy eie natuur en karakter te funksioneer nie, veral omdat alle lewe in God ontstaan en alle lewe deur God onderhou word nie? As dit so is, is God se wet dan uitgevaardigde reëls of die beginsels waarop die heelal gebou is om te werk – wette van swaartekrag, termodinamika, en uiteindelik die wet van liefde, gee en liefdadigheid?

Wanneer ons die heelal verstaan soos God dit gebou het en sy wet as ‘n uitdrukking van sy eie aard van liefde, dan verstaan ons verskeie belangrike elemente. Eerstens is lewe slegs moontlik wanneer dit in harmonie is met die ontwerpprotokolle waarop God dit gebou het om te bestaan. In hierdie geval, volmaakte harmonie met God se karakter van liefde. Tweedens, sonde is “wetteloosheid” of om buite die einste protokolle op te tree waarop die lewe gebou is om te werk. Daarom is “die loon van die sonde die dood” of “sonde wanneer dit volgroeid is, bring die dood voort”. Hoekom? Om dieselfde rede dat die dood volg wanneer iemand die “wet” van asemhaling oortree en ‘n plastieksak oor hul kop bind. Lewe bestaan slegs in harmonie met die beginsels waarop dit gebou is om te werk. Ons is ontwerp om asem te haal, as ons hierdie wet oortree, sterf ons. Dieselfde geld in die geestelike ryk. God het ons geskep om in volmaakte harmonie met sy karakter van liefde te funksioneer. Afwykings, sonder herstel, lei onvermydelik tot die dood.

Met dit in gedagte kan ons voortgaan om jou vrae te verstaan.

Wat is die toestand van die hele mensdom sedert Adam gesondig het? Ons natuurlike toestand is terminaal – ons sterf almal aan ‘n terminale toestand en, tensy dit reggestel word, sal alles ophou bestaan. God het egter ‘n plan om ons toestand reg te stel en daardie plan het vereis dat Jesus moes kom. Satan wou nie hê dat Jesus moes kom nie en het dus begin werk om die weg te sluit waardeur Hy mens kon word. Met ander woorde, Satan het gewerk om elke mens te kry om hul harte permanent vir God te sluit sodat niemand met God sou saamwerk nie en die Messias nie gebore kon word nie. Op ‘n stadium in die menslike geskiedenis was daar net 8 mense wat nog bereid was om met God saam te werk – Satan het dit byna reggekry. God het in OT-tye opgetree om die weg vir die Messias oop te hou sodat die hele mensdom nie verlore gaan nie.

Wanneer ons die werklikheid van God se heelal verstaan, sien ons dat sonde beskadig en vernietig; dit lei tot die dood, en God het as die groot argitek en bron van lewe soos ‘n dokter gewerk om sy skepping te genees en te herstel. Al God se optrede in die Skrif is ‘n bewys van sy ingryping om te verhoed dat sonde sy skepping vernietig. Dit is nie God wat as ‘n arbitrêre regter optree om strawwe vir ongehoorsaamheid op te lê nie. Hierdie idee kom van die siening van God en die hemel deur die lens van hoe aardse regerings te werk gaan. Maar geen aardse regering verteenwoordig die regering van God nie, daarom word aardse regerings in die Skrif altyd deur wrede diere voorgestel, terwyl Jesus die lam is – skrille kontras.

Dink aan ‘n dokter wat probeer om ‘n pasiënt te red wat ‘n voet met gangreen het – die dokter kan die voet afsny om die man te red, en die onkundige neem dit waar en kan die dokter as ‘n mense skender of slagter beskryf, maar ons weet die dokter werk om te red. Wanneer ons lank genoeg in sonde volhard, kan ons in ons gedagtes die vermoëns vernietig wat op liefde en waarheid reageer. As en wanneer dit gebeur, is daar niks meer wat God vir ons kan doen nie, want geen hoeveelheid liefde of waarheid sal enige impak op ons hê nie. Sulke individue sal soos gangreenselle in die liggaam wees, wat slegs ander gesonde selle besmet en die dood bring. En net soos ‘n goeie dokter soms dooie weefsel chirurgies sal verwyder, het God soms mense verwyder wat deur hul eie keuse onbereikbaar is en net ander beseer en seergemaak het en sy genesingsplan belemmer het.

Ons moet ook onthou, selfs wanneer God so opgetree het, dat Hy het net mense in die grafte laat slaap, daardie einste individue sal opgewek word in een van twee opstandings. God se optrede het dus nie hul bestaan beëindig nie, maar slegs hul bestaan onderbreek, en dit slegs met die doel om sy skepping te genees.

Die geval van die berinne is ‘n situasie waarin God se volk so verhard geraak het in verstand en hart dat hulle nie na sy profeet wou luister nie en dus was ‘n hele nasie in gevaar om vir ewig verlore te gaan. Hierdie jongmense het met Elisa gespot en gesê: “Gaan op, kaalkop.” Hierdie “opgaan” was ‘n verwysing na Elia se rit na die hemel in ‘n strydwa. Hulle het basies gesê Elisa is ‘n dwaas en het die hele ding opgemaak en niemand moet na hom luister nie. Ná die voorval met die berinne is daar na Elisa geluister en is hy ernstig opgeneem.

Stel jou voor jou hele kerk is besig om te sterf aan antraks vergiftiging en die dokter, wat die antibiotika gehad het om almal te red, word voorgestel as ‘n bedrieër, ‘n swendelaar, sodat niemand die middel sal neem nie en die hele kerk kan nou sterf. Skielik word diegene wat sulke bewerings gemaak het, op ‘n wonderbaarlike wyse verwyder. Wat sal nou gebeur? Kan die res van die kerk dalk nou bereid wees om die middel te neem en gered te word? Maar as daar geen wonderbaarlike ingryping was nie, sou almal aangehou het om die leuens te glo en sou hulle aan miltsiekte gesterf het.

Ons moet ook onthou dat God nie sonde gestraf het nie. Wat is volgens die Skrif die straf vir sonde? Daar is net een straf vir sonde en dit is ewige nie-bestaan – hoekom? Omdat onherstelde sonde ‘n mens skei van God, wat die bron van lewe is, en ‘n mens buite die ontwerp hou wat God die lewe geskep het om op te werk. God hoef nie hierdie straf “op te lê” nie, dit is onvermydelik as ‘n mens nie in eenheid met God herstel word nie.

Om te verstaan waarom iemand gestenig is omdat hy brandhout op Sabbat opgetel het, moet ‘n mens die ingesteldheid van die mense destyds verstaan en die beste manier om dit te demonstreer is om ‘n ware verhaal te vertel wat in 2006 gebeur het en deur John Hendren op National Public Radio berig is.

John Hendren wou uitvind waarom soveel Irakse burgerlikes in die oorlogsone sterf, of dit oorlogsverwant is of as gevolg van ander faktore. Wat hy ontdek het, was verstommend. Hy het berig oor ‘n kruidenierswinkel en sy drie werknemers wat doodgeskiet is en die winkel met ‘n brandbom gebombardeer is omdat hulle nie hul groente vertoon het soos die plaaslike kerkleiers beveel het nie. Die plaaslike kerkleiers het beveel dat selderystingels nie langs tamaties vertoon moet word nie, aangesien ‘n mens moontlik ‘n obskure seksuele konnotasie kon kry. In elk geval, die groentesmous het sy groente op hierdie manier vertoon en so is die vier mense gedood en die winkel met ‘n brandbom gebombardeer.

Nou, as jy die landdros van Bagdad was, wat is na jou oordeel ‘n ernstiger misdaad, om seldery langs tamaties staan te maak of dronk te bestuur? En sou jy na jou oordeel die doodstraf vir dronkbestuur gee? Natuurlik nie! Maar wat as jy ‘n volk regeer wat glo dat selderystingels langs tamaties ‘n misdaad is wat met die dood strafbaar is, watter straf sal jy dronkbestuur moet gee sodat hulle kan besef dat dit ten minste net so ernstig is? As u dronkbestuur ‘n boete van R10000 gegee het, maar hulle glo dat die seldery/tamatie-kombinasie ‘n doodstraf is, hoe ernstig sou hulle dronkbestuur opneem?

Julle het gehoor dat daar gesê is: Oog vir oog en tand vir tand. Maar Ek sê vir julle dat julle ‘n slegte mens nie moet weerstaan nie; maar as iemand jou op jou regterwang slaan, draai ook die ander een na hom toe. En hy wat met jou na die gereg wil gaan en jou onderkleed wil neem, laat hom ook die bo-kleed kry. En elkeen wat van jou een myl afdwing, loop met hom twee myl saam. Gee aan hom wat jou iets vra, en wys hom nie af wat van jou wil leen nie. Julle het gehoor dat daar gesê is: Jy moet jou naaste liefhê en jou vyand moet jy haat. Maar Ek sê vir julle: Julle moet jul vyande liefhê; seën die wat vir julle vervloek, doen goed aan die wat vir julle haat, en bid vir die wat julle beledig en julle vervolg; sodat julle kinders kan word van julle Vader wat in die hemele is… (Matteus 5:38-45 AFR33).

Die rede waarom God mense ontmoet waar hulle is en op hul vlak praat en reëls gee wat hulle kan verstaan, selfs al is dit nie sy ideaal nie, is omdat wat God wil hê, nie afgedwing kan word nie. God wil ware liefde in ons harte hê en dit kan slegs bereik word deur waarheid wat in liefde aangebied word en mense die keuse gee om te kies. Soos Paulus sê: “Laat elkeen in sy eie gemoed te volle oortuig wees” (Rom 14:5).

Wanneer ‘n mens dae lank in ‘n donker grot is, kan hulle nie in die helder sonlig uitkom nie, soveel lig is nie net pynlik nie, maar verblindend. Net so, wanneer mense geestelike duisternis gewoond is, kan God hulle nie direk na die helderheid van sy ideaal neem nie, dit is pynlik en verblindend. So ontmoet Hy hulle in hulle duisternis en lei hulle stadig na die lig!

So, wat sien ons in die OT? Ek sien ‘n geduldige, genadige, liefdevolle God, wat siek mense hanteer wie se harte en gedagtes deur sonde verduister is, hulle ontmoet waar hulle is, en alles in sy vermoë doen om te genees en te red. Hoe sien jy dit?

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