Call Us: 423 661-4734 | Email: requests@comeandreason.com      
Response to Adventist Today Article

Response to Adventist Today Article

This morning a friend and online member of our class emailed a link to an article on Adventist Today (AT) entitled “Is comeandreason.com Reasonable on COVID and Vaccines?”

As I believe this article misrepresents what I have been teaching, I posted a response on their Facebook page. However, some have not been able to view it, so I am posting it here:


Sadly, you have missed the central and most important issue that I have been teaching on this topic and that is the Great Controversy and the two antagonistic principles at war between God’s government and Satan’s that enter into every phase of human existence (Education 190). It is the methods, principles and means we embrace in how we act and treat others that develops our minds, hearts, characters that is my central concern.

COVID is a worldwide issue and every person must decide how they will deal with it personally, but also how they will treat others—especially those who don’t agree with them.

Will we, in the treatment of others, use God’s methods, or allow fear to control our actions and embrace the methods of God’s enemy? The methods we choose solidify our characters by action into either more godliness or more beastliness.

We are to present our bodies as living sacrifices holy and pleasing to the Lord, this is an act of spiritual worship (Romans 12:1). I cannot decide for another person how they are to honor God with their body, whether they should eat a vegetarian diet or not. Neither can I decide for another person what medical treatments they should get—especially if they are healthy and at low risk from a disease.

“In matters of conscience the soul must be left untrammeled. No one is to control another’s mind, to judge for another, or to prescribe his duty. God gives to every soul freedom to think, and to follow his own convictions. “Every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” No one has a right to merge his own individuality in that of another. In all matters where principle is involved, “let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:12, 5. In Christ’s kingdom there is no lordly oppression, no compulsion of manner. The angels of heaven do not come to the earth to rule, and to exact homage, but as messengers of mercy, to co-operate with men in uplifting humanity.” DA 550.6

“Compelling power is found only under Satan’s government. The Lord’s principles are not of this order. His authority rests upon goodness, mercy, and love; and the presentation of these principles is the means to be used. God’s government is moral, and truth and love are to be the prevailing power.” DA 759.1

When is it okay to use the power of the state, of commerce, of travel, of employment, to compel and coerce people to take actions that violate their conscience?

Is it okay to fine people, restrict their travel, imprison, or burn people at the stake for teaching heresy as in the Dark Ages—after all the church needed to “save lives” from not just temporal loss but eternal loss and burning in hell—was it okay if their motives were to save lives?

“In striking contrast to the wrong and oppression so universally practised were the mission and work of Christ. Earthly kingdoms are established and upheld by physical force, but this was not to be the foundation of the Messiah’s kingdom. In the establishment of his government no carnal weapons were to be used, no coercion practised; no attempt would be made to force the consciences of men. These are the principles used by the prince of darkness for the government of his kingdom. His agents are actively at work, seeking in their human independence to enact laws which are in direct contrast to Christ’s mercy and loving-kindness.

“Prophecy has plainly stated the nature of Christ’s kingdom. He planned a government which would use no force; his subjects would know no oppression. The symbols of earthly governments are wild beasts, but in the kingdom of Christ, men are called upon to behold, not a ferocious beast, but the Lamb of God”
{RH, August 18, 1896}

Today, people are being placed in positions to decide in their hearts and minds whether to join with the state, the beastly powers of this world, to compel and coerce others. Each person is deciding in their mind what issue makes it okay to do this to another or not. And that decision determines their character and ultimately who they are loyal to.

The final deception will not be to bow down in a Satanic cult temple, but to take Satan’s methods into the heart in how we treat others—the argument will be: as long as we are “saving lives” it is okay to use the methods of God’s enemy.

My view is that we cannot win God’s cause by using Satan’s methods. We win by presenting the truth in love and leaving others free.

Getting the vaccine or not getting the vaccine is irrelevant to the real issues at play, the real issues are the character we develop in dealing with others and the methods we are willing to embrace in how we advance what we believe is right.

My arguments have not been “don’t get the vaccine” I have said if you believe it is right for you, then get it. My arguments have been against the methods employed to compel and coerce those not convinced that the benefit outweighs the risks in their circumstance. It is disappointing that so many people, including Christian medical professionals, are being dominated by fear to employ methods contrary to the kingdom of God.

It is also disappointing that your article failed to recognize the main point of my presentations and articles—the methods and principles we use in treating others. Truth, love and freedom!


 

Addendum:

The Adventist Today Author, added an addendum, after my response above. In case some have trouble finding my response on their Facebook page, I am posting it here.

If you think the issue before us is a viral pandemic threatening the lives of the majority of people, then you have seriously missed what is transpiring. The real issue happening right now is not about a virus nor about a vaccine, it is about power, control, the overthrow of liberty, the reshaping of society, and the rise of satanic forces. The virus is being used as an opportunity to incite fear, in order to manipulate and justify the violations of liberty.

People right now are being conditioned to accept methods of censorship, coercion, restriction of the free exercise of assembly, religion, and speech. People are being conditioned to justify the withholding of medical care (Dr. in Miami announces she won’t care for the unvaccinated), and some clergy are refusing communion to the unvaccinated. Why do they say they are doing this? Because the unvaccinated, they argue, are hurting people, are a danger to others—their immune status doesn’t matter, recovered individuals with natural immunity are not considered, just force the jab.

Just step back and think about what is happening—we as physicians never deny care, it doesn’t matter if the person is a murderer, rapist, molester, or smoker who keeps smoking through their trach after every ICU ventilator stay. If someone needs care, we provide it—that is the ethic of the physician.

But the perversity of the COVID politic is infecting minds, so that people are believing it is righteous to compel, coerce, force, withhold care, and withhold communion, for what? A medical treatment with no long-term safety data? Anyone who claims there is long-term safety data is lying. For a treatment whose effectiveness falls with every mutation?

Where is the respect for individual decision making? Where is the recognition that vaccines are not the only way to fight the virus? Where is the recognition that just because someone doesn’t want this vaccine doesn’t mean they are not working to stay healthy and prevent the spread in other ways.

Good arguments, based on published studies, can be made that the traditional SDA lifestyle (plant-based diet, sunshine, fresh air, etc.) provides better protection from COVID (lower infection rates and lower rates of bad outcome) than the vaccines. Good comparator studies need to be done to confirm this, but to suggest people who don’t want the vaccine are not scientific or don’t care about others is a lie.

What is happening now is an assault on our liberties and way of life, the principles of God’s kingdom are being attacked by forces that care only for power and control, not the health of the people.

If the government really wanted to stop the spread of COVID, then they would not ship tens of thousands of illegal immigrants, infected with COVID, all over the country—at tax payer expense.

If the government really believed the vaccines worked, then Biden wouldn’t have said, “we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.”

If the government really believed vaccines were necessary to stop the spread of COVID, then they wouldn’t exempt over 600,000 postal workers and illegal immigrants who are not required to be vaccinated.

Finally, my blog that you referenced was primarily about medical ethics, the loss of independent decision-making, and willingness to mandate and coerce, rather than leave people free.

 

Email me the blog whenever a new one is published.

Donate online, securely via PayPal using your credit or debit card (no PayPal account needed, unless you want to set up a monthly, recurring payment).


cancel recurring payment

 

Want to use zelle instead?
See how on our
Support and Donations page.

Upcoming Events

calendar

Testimonial Post Slider

Testimony 59

I’m a native Ghanan, but am currently in France for my master’s degree. Prior to this, during my final years at undergraduate studies in Ghana, I was introduced to your ministry and I’ve been immensely blessed by what you share, especially about the Design and Imposed Laws. God richly bless you for that.

One of the first things I did when I arrived in France was to buy all four of your books. They not only helped me, but those I shared them with. I shared the message with an atheist student and I marveled at how God worked mightily in his life. Today this person shares the Love of God with others and debunks theories of who God is not. I want to share what you present in your “Heavenly Sanctuary and Investigative Judgment” pamphlet, because the message brought rest to my soul and I live today as a healthy person.

God bless you so much and your ministry.

Michael A., Ghana

 

Testimony 26

Your teachings about our heavenly Father have changed my life. Thank you sooooooo very very much! I know He’s doing some serious healing in my heart and life and I look forward to each new day to learn something new about Him and to just hear you speak about Him. Thank you, forever.

Nancy S.

 

Testimony 65

I have been tuning into your weekly study classes for a while now and wanted express my appreciation for the teachings that ha been a huge blessing in opening up the true message of the word. Viewing scripture under an imposed law theory always, without fail, raised more questions, concerns, and conflicting scripture interpretations that were discouraging at the very least. Looking at scripture through the design law lens has brought more truth to light for me personally and an understanding of our Heavenly Father that places Him “above all others,” where I am now more than thrilled to witness and serve Him.  I “stumbled” across this ministry a year or so ago and would only watch a few minutes at a time. But the more I listened and the longer I paid attention, the more my spiritual eyes were opened to the ever present truths of scripture. The comprehension of the great controversy and it’s origin by the lies perpetrated and perpetuated throughout the Bible on the attack of God’s character and government is truly priceless. Keep up the Good Work! Your servanthood is desperately needed in such a time as this!

Jeff D., Reading, MA, USA

 

Testimony 67

I was introduced to Come And Reason by a friend of my mother-in-law, who gave me several CD’s of Dr. Jennings. The clarity of the message and recognition that God’s is a God of love was so clear, advancing beyond Dr. Maxwell’s message. However, grappled with Maxwell saying God used emergency measures for the fallen world. Now after several years of being a regular listener of the Come And Reasoning bible study class and attending Jennings’ meetings in Dallas/Fort Worth, TX, things are becoming clearer for me. Design law versus imposed law has added so much to my personal understanding of theology. This message has really impacted my work in counseling so many people miserable because they are searching for and trusting human governments to create order and peace or believing in a God who says love Me or I will kill you. I am grateful that I have an alternative view to offer my clients that makes sense. I teach a bible study class on a semi-regular basis and I value the materials that Come And Reason so freely offers to aid me in presenting this vital message. Thank you for continuing to provide advancement in our very limited understanding of a Infinite God that is rational and believable.

Dr. Roger D, Arlington, TX, USA

 

Testimony 72

I am blown away by the truth that you present. God’s Design Law makes so much sense! You have validated my impression that, if God is love, He would not kill those who don’t want to know him. If God gives us choice, then how can He destroy us if our choice is not to follow him. Thank you for opening my eyes and heart to the pure love of God seen through Jesus. The love I now have for Jesus is deeper and free from condemnation. My heart has been opened to love others as Jesus loves me. May God continue to bless your God-given insight into His word and your ministry. The truth has set me free!

H. Miller, Centereach, NY

Testimony 55

I was born [into the church], then I left it for many years. 10 years ago, I came back, but I could not take the hypocrisy and the lack of answers to the missing pieces. I struggled, but I did not abandon my commitment to know the truth. God is leading me to the simple understanding of his relevance and I am relearning what the church taught me as a youth… that he loves me, that he has led me to a knowledge of him such as I have never known. He is using Dr. Jennings to connect the dots that are now so apparent and hiding in plain sight!

Dean P., Arlington, TX, USA

 

Testimony 64

I’ve been reading the bible and walking with Jesus since I was around 16. I’m 42 now. I’ve mostly been alone in my walk although I went to several churches in different denominations. For the past 3 years God has been showing me His character of agape. It’s been a blessing and changed how I view God and my walk with Jesus. About a year ago I came across the power of love and the principles of design law. These teachings changed how I read scripture and have been such a beautiful blessing. I’m very excited and grateful for these truths. We share these truths of agape, design law and the reality of the principles of the two trees in the garden of Eden with people on Facebook and YouTube. People all over are learning to trust God and His agape design law which makes life possible. Thank you for everything you shared with me. May God continue to bless your ministry and lives.

Bradley M., Hinsdale, NY, USA

 

Testimony 9

I really enjoy with you the view of a gracious God. Thank you for sharing the work you are allowing the Lord to do in you.

L., Queensland, Australia

 

Testimony 61

I grew up in a prominent protestant church and had what I like to call religious anxiety. I’ve always had questions about God and Salvation that no one could seem to answer.  I didn’t know how to find resolution. During 2020, at the height of my anxiety, I fell to my knees and begged God to show me truth and light and to give me the hope that I’ve been longing for. Days later, I stumbled upon your online videos and it was like a veil was lifted and EVERYTHING made sense! For the first time in my almost 39 years of life, my religious/spiritual anxiety has lessened. I feel a sense of freedom and peace I’ve NEVER had before… and it’s all because my view of God has changed. Thank you!

Ashleighn C.

 

Testimony 20

I just wanted to personally thank you for your teachings and insight into scripture. I came across your website via my cousin who suggested I look into “Healing the Mind” information. My youngest daughter has been struggling over the last couple of years and it all came to a head this spring. When I started listening to the “Healing the Mind” lectures my own life began to be transformed. I began sharing with all my daughters the concepts you laid out so clearly. I ordered your book and soaked it up. I just want to say “Thank You!” My walk with the Lord has been refreshed and renewed. Your obedience to the Lord is a blessing to so many.

R. K., Anderson, SC, USA

 

Testimony 34

I was introduced to Come and Reason Ministries by accident, via a passing comment made in a bible study class we were visiting. I checked this website out and my life was changed. The understanding of the truth of God’s character, and how we apply it, is so right. The tricky part is consistently applying which “lens” to look through. As I began to understand, I started sharing the basics of this understanding with a discussion group I was leading and, suddenly, a lot of things started to make sense that never used to. At the same time, I enjoyed an amazing opportunity. I was able to conduct a full bible study at WORK! What an amazing experience! It is such a joy to share the truth about God and to share how it all fits in the war between God and Satan. So many people benefit when we have a correct understanding about how God works and who He really is! Thank you for this transformational understanding. Keep up the good work! God Bless you!

Tony P., CA, USA

 

Testimony 63

I’ve been very blessed by “The God Shaped Brain” and this ministry, through video and podcast, over the last few years. It’s truly opened up my eyes more to the truth about God and the importance of that truth in the present world. The message is so inviting, freeing and enlightening and MORE people need to know about it. I believe it is the last message that can truly, not only prepare a people for salvation and translation, but vindicate the character of God.

Michael V., Yonkers, NY, USA

 

Testimony 52

Your unique way in spreading the truth is what we all need today. Most of us don’t recognize the contamination coming from all the lies and selfishness in the world. Because of our fear of death, we forgot how to live. Lies left and right. I was losing hope and faith, because of so many ideas that are always contradicting each other – so many questions answered by other, more complicated, questions – until I found your channel on YouTube.

You did not just give me answers, you also taught me how to answer new questions that arise in my mind. Now I see things differently. I see God’s mercy, grace, and Love everywhere, in spite of all the chaos that we all have done as humans. I don’t fear death anymore. Accepting the Truth and Love about God is truly a genuine Freedom from all the confusions, sufferings, selfishness, pain, and death.

I just wanted to say, thank you, sooooo much for revealing the real Remedy for our infected life. I have a new hope and now see the world in a different perspective!

Wheinny P., University Place, WA, USA

 

Testimony 7

Ok, so last night I listened to “The Law of Liberty” and “How to Achieve Victory: Freedom, Truth and Spirtual Warfare.” These are both MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITES so far! The logic is just soooooo beautiful. I had to re-listen to them a couple of times. I just want to EXPLODE! (<< we assume with joy and happiness)

N. B., Canada

 

Testimony 11

I would love to have a copy of “Healing the Mind” DVDs to have in my therapy office. I enjoy having clients check out materials to enhance their therapy experience. I have sat under Dr. Jennings’ teaching at an American Association of Christian Counselors convention and respect his work greatly.

K.B., LA, USA